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California, former cia officer robert baer. secretary clinton is saying it's important for the libyans to win their own freedom but you think the u.s. could be doing more? >> i do. i think between what they've done, the sanctions are good. they've put negative pressure on the regime and you should consider about the no-fly zone. but there's more room for more active diplomacy. i would like to see them being forthright, have the president on the record saying that gadhafi has forfeited his right to rule. that the united states and the west looks forward to working with the libyan people to deal...

Circle, you know, among his sons, it's a question of -- i think they're deminted, all of them. so getting inside gadhafi's head has never been easy, and there's never been a military that the cia could penetrate and figure out what's going on because gadhafi eviscerated it. so we are dealing with very much in a black hole, and a very unpredictable man who is tired and is getting worse by the day. >> bob, if you're saying the idea of him retreating to the desert and fomenting a civil yar or insurgency, how much of a force does he have? >> he doesn't have much of a force. if there was an army, i...

Zone are directed against the humanitarian crisis, the killings going on. those won't stop as long as gadhafi is in power. so as bob baer says, the objective is to get rid of gadhafi. what i would like to see is more energetic diplomacy on that end, while we look at these other military options. but they're problematic. people have to fight and win their own freedom. they want to fight and win their own freedom. if we start getting involved militarily in some way, it makes that more complicated. there's more we can do diplomatically. >> it does seem, bob, military involvement from outside chan...

I think it would show to folks on the ground who are opposing the regime, that they can win. and they will have international support to do so. >> steven hadley, bob baer, thank you very much. still ahead, tear gas fired on protesters in iran. and james arthur ray, remember him? he faces a judge today. and also the antisemitic rant that is getting the designer fired. it's unbelievable. next. let's jet get an update with isha. protesters in iran clashed with police today. the demonstrators are clashing with security forces and there were reports of tear gas being fired on crowds. iran has...