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Themselves quickly from waters. are they itching to fight trump's fire with fire of their own? we have msnbc political analyst, and opinion writer for "the washington post." and robert, let me just start with you, it was striking to me yesterday that the sense i was getting this was an inexact thing, but there was a lot of resonance with what waters had said, or at least sympathy for why she was saying it from democratic activists, but then you look at their leaders, you looked at pelosi, you looked at chuck schumer and they couldn't distance themselves fast enough. is there a disconnect there...

Outside of abortion clinics and the like. it might not be smart for the democrats to do it, but that's a different question as to whether society considing the way this administration has conducted itself. >> let me flip this around, robert kcosta, schumer and peloi distanced themselves quickly. to a republican out there, i imagine there might be some frustration that, hey, the leader of our party, donald trump, he's not going to do what chuck schumer did, he's not going to come out and try to cool temperatures at all, he's trying to inflame temperatures. >> the president is seizing on these i...

Talking about it and sort of says it has to pass anyway. >> and that's exactly what was said today from the white hois. house. we don't like this. the president has said i would veto that. but here's the other side of that coin, chris, nobody wants a shutdown. so we're just two weeks away from christmas. maybe it's going to with a three-month plan. that's what's hanging over everybody's hepd e head. first of all, the possibility of a shut doin. and, the second, at least from the white house perspective, the democrats have a much weaker hand to play if they wait. >> all right. thank you very mu...