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Stockman tradition. Anyway, when i was growing up on small town montana, pretty rural and a community picnic, one time, the sole timer who was a homesteader. We back when was reminiscing about the family farm in wisconsin, and i asked how come he moved out to montana . And he said, well, there was free land out here and land was 20 an acre back in wisconsin. So he said he came out here for free land, which was the most expensive land he ever bought. So this panel was a dream of mine. Amy lauter is going to talk about the free land, socalled free land and i ive been looking for years and my sea...

Together. Im grateful to have been and katrina and all of you for this wonderful most really full program and worthy of the David Stockman tradition. Anyway, when i was growing up on small town montana, pretty rural and a community picnic, one time, the sole timer who was a homesteader. We back when was reminiscing about the family farm in wisconsin, and i asked how come he moved out to montana . And he said, well, there was free land out here and land was 20 an acre back in wisconsin. So he said he came out here for free land, which was the most expensive land he ever bought. So this panel wa...

Annie jacobsen live on in depth for the next three hours start now. Host Annie Jacobsen, lets start with some definitions. What is area 51 . Guest area 51 is that secret base out in nevada where all kinds of mysterious things happen, that you and i can talk about and maybe we know whats going on out there, maybe we dont. Host why is it called area 51 . Guest big debate. I believe its called area 51 because of the original project that went on out there in 1951. Information given to me by some of the sources that i interviewed at length for that book but, of course, everything about area 51 is ...

Interviewed at length for that book, of course everything about area 51 is a puzzle inside of a puzzle. That is even debated. The actual origins, the originaa story of 51. Host so what was going on in 1951 . Guest the Nuclear Commission was doing testing in the middle of the desert. Come they wanted to keep what theyre doing secret and the cia was coming into existence with its programs. The two merged in this idea of if you have a secret base inside of a secret place you can do seeker program. So this is not a military operation necessarily . Area 51 has every organization you can imagine the...

Host Annie Jacobsen, its start with definitions. Whats area 51 . Guest thats a secret basese out in nevada where all kinds of mysterious things happen that you and i can talk about and maybe we know what is going on out there maybe we dont. Host whew its called area 51. Guest big debate. I believe its called area 51 because of the original project that went on us there in 1951. Information given to me by some of the sources that i interviewed at length for that book, but of course, everything about area 51 is kind of a mussel inside of a palestine sol thats debated. The actual origins, the ori...