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And those of us who were watching from the outside couldn't quite believe what we were seeing. what one of the reasons for it it seems to me is the committee like all the rest of the committees in the senate have never quite figured out how do you decide in that room whether an accuser has reached an adequate standard of proof. >> that's right, lawrence. and look, back then robert seabird, the great dean of the senate, great institutionalist, it has to be protected as an institution. if there's a doubt, the doubt should be resolved in favor of making sure we have the right people on the suprem...

The senate judiciary committee and was a deputy assistant attorney general in the department of justice. and ron, let's start with you. i know you've been thinking about those days 27 years ago, and those of us who were watching from the outside couldn't quite believe what we were seeing. what one of the reasons for it it seems to me is the committee like all the rest of the committees in the senate have never quite figured out how do you decide in that room whether an accuser has reached an adequate standard of proof. >> that's right, lawrence. and look, back then robert seabird, the great de...