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General and first black president. how does that help their objectives and what they want to get done? does this help them get something done? >> that's an interesting question. first of all, the job of the attorney general is not for it to be personal. to put that aside for a second. however, he is human and he is african-american. you did put in context the first army attorney gener african-american attorney general. clearly this is the mission and cause but the truth this should be a mission and cause for every single eligible person to vote and not discriminated against no matter who you a...

Sign as opposed to people saying voting rights act is horrible we should get rid of it but people who say that. hopefully, people will be able to come together. certainly, if republicans want to learn from the lessons of 2012 and take the results of their autopsy into account, they would be on the side of more voting and collaboration on this. >> silence may be golden is what you're saying here. robert, eric holder has talked about a defining moment for him as he was speaking at the lbj library. he looked up at a tv screen and it was flashing old photos. here is one of them. he saw a picture o...

One said when you think about it, this is small bore stuff compared to the lynchings and shootings that happened 506 years ago. ultimately this is within our power to change. joining me now is democratic strategist and pollster marjorie and robert trainin. always great to see both of you. marjorie, is this small bore stuff as the president said? >> well, i think it's appropriate for the president to put it in context. it wasn't that long ago that african-americans trying to register to vote were told you can if you can guess how many bubbles there are in this bar of soap. so we have moofed a l...

Convenient. something that we want to encourage participation, not discourage participation and i think that is what he was talking about. >> robert, you had about a dozen activists in that meeting behind closed doors. what did you hear about how things went with regard to the ability and ease what they like to accomplish? >> marjorie's point was putting things in context and historical making sure that everyone knew exactly what the supreme court did. let's be clear about what the supreme court did. they said look, the onus is on you as the voter to be able to differentiate between whether or...