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The sense you get is that they have made some significant strides. is that your assessment as well, sir? >> oh, yeah. absolutely. they were using soviet style old technology and these things were misfiring about 50% of the time. and in a very short period of time, their rocket technology improved dramatically. i think they truly brought in some soviet old former soviet scientists. they probably had some technological assistance possibly from china as well. i'm just speculating on that. but their program advanced dramatically under kim jong un. and to remind our viewers, what he is trying to do...

Can you believe there is talk of an actual test over the water at the tip of an icbm? >> craw. i mean, a lot of us thought on christmas day 1991 that this chapter had closed with the end of the soviet union. >> yep. >> and now we're in a remarkable place. there's a certain historical symmetry. president trump tonight was speaking from huntsville, alabama, which was a critical cold war site in the american south. extraordinary number of good bit of our rocket technology, a good bit of our ballistic missiles came out of huntsville, alabama. and i think that one of the things that this crisis is ...

Overnight. i think there's a lot of bluster going on on both sides in this debate. they're a long way from the deliverable icbm with a nuclear war head. we have time to build up our ballistic missile defense, to build a wall around north korea with our allies, to pressure the north korean leadership, you know, to change their ways. we have time to do this. this is not the time to panic about this. >> all right. everyone keeps saying we don't have to worry about this because they're so far offer. but is there technology they can buy from rogue nations that greatly advances that time line? >> ye...

, good morning. i'm thomas roberts in the msnbc headquarters in new york. the strength in rocket technology has the world on edge this morning. among thousands of troops in pyongyang. it marked the 105th birthday celebration of the country founder kim il-sung. the grandfather of kim jong un. we have koelly cobiella joining us now from london. let's talk about the interests in the weapons that were shown there. the missiles. >> reporter: thomas, this is a first look really at what the

Now, of course, as you mentioned earlier some of these north korean missiles are supposed to be at least a medium range if not an intercontinental have a rye ty so it's really a kind of notice that we're giving them that says if you continue to develop the missile technology, the rocket technology as well as the nuclear technology, we're going to respond to it, so we're seeing not only that there is rhetoric about this issue but there's also a lot of force that is backing up the rhetoric that the trump administration has been talking about in the last few weeks. >> i just want to update our vi...