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Ignatius, what did you think about that i'm glad yamiche brought it up donald trump makes a political decision that obviously puts him in a terrible position and it is almost immediately after that that moment takes place nny really kick him where it hurts talking about rogerstop and, i'm not suggesting she doesn't have the right to do that i'm not suggesting in trump's washington maybe she would have been seen as wk i just wonder, might that have been an opportunity to old a bunch and put out. >> she's got donald trump's number and i think she's getting so many pats on the back for having

They believed that the disclosure of the indictment that was going to be public and related materials on the public record prior to arrest would have increased the risks that the defendant, roger stone, would flee and destroy or tamper with evidence. do you think that was a credible concern of theirs? >> re-i doni don't believe so. >> you don't think roger would run? >> i don't believe roger would run. i'm not going to say he wouldn't obstruct justice once the fbi was coming or he was arrested. what i would say is that aaron zbi -- i find what they did not include yet in this indictment is omi...

Pressured roger to do something and that that was at the direction of someone above that senior official that they did it so who is that person that's referred to in paragraph 12? and that has to have been possibly the president, possibly jared kushner, possibly don jr those are the ones that could have been high enough up to be above a senior campaign official >> seth, as a prosecutor, not everything that is alleged is formally charged as a crime. do you view this as an indictment that is fundamentally about obstructive activities, full stop? or do you view it as obstruction with the implicat...

Roger stone. >> do you see attempted collusion, sir >> well, i don't know. i got to tell you, nowhere anywhere has said or believed that jerry corsi had contact with wikileaks you know, if roger was attempting to get e-mails that every reporter in the entire country was trying to get their hands on, i understand that. i mean, it makes sense -- >> right. >> -- that roger working for infowars was trying to track the story down. >> then, of course, you mention person one, jerry corsi, who you appeared with on "the beat" this week then there is person two, randy credico. it says roger was looking ...

They have not named the names. of course they have not said whether or not he directly had contact, nor do i know if he did. >> right but you do know how it worked. roger stop was your mentor and you were a direct aide to donald trump. hold on. i'll let you finish. you're speaking to the fact that your reading of this is that they may identify and make actions against that small number of potential people in the future >> i -- i think that they're making a case that this -- we haven't gotten to the transition yet. we haven't gotten to trump tower moscow we haven't gotten to what was going on m...