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Despite the fact that he was a loyal foot soldier for donald trump. what can we glean from cipollone's testimony and the fact that he cooperated with the committee? >> a couple of things. one, this was just a preliminary meeting between cipollone and the team investigating the attack. he may come back for a sworn deposition which would be recorded and transfer. he was in the oval office, and the white house, for several very key meetings with donald trump. one in particular was the meeting with sydney powell, and mike flynn, where they encourage the voting machines. one was the meeting with bi...

Considered an obstruction to this rogue plan that rudy giuliani and others had. >> erin, what are final questions you have unanswered here? >> so i think what's also really interesting about this story is that western a former congressman from ohio, bob mccune, set up this meeting between tymoshenko and rudy giuliani. and i think that's pretty important. here's why. we know that bob mccune is relatively close, vice president mike pence, has been pictured alongside president trump and at several events at the white house. he's also close with robert livingston, who was mentioned in a story, i b...