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People have not been talking about. >> roland, i think that's such a good point. i think when we look at things through the lens of 2022 and what the jacksons went through in the '70s, people have all kinds of opinions about his parenting. but discipline without love is tyranny, and tyrants my parents were not. there's times in the household where love is understood more often than expressed. i think that's a legitimate point. brad, tell me you watched because i'm itching to talk about every piece of this documentary. >> tiffany, we got to chat, in our household, we teach the education of the ...

Because this is what happens, right, a lot of times we focus on, you know, federal races, we focus on congressional races. this impacts your children, this impacts their ability to learn about the holocaust. are we kidding? so again, i completely agree with roland, this is politics at its worst. this is not american. and all the parents watching right now, go look it up. go figure out a way to run for school board because we need your voices for our kids. >> and i hope people really flood that e-mail address, like flood the tip line. the republicans did a similar thing around voting, and they ...

Where parents feel violated and you might hear from the parents you don't want to hear from, because what's silent in that sentence is white parents. he wants to hear from white parents, brad. you have young kids. they're not the best reporters on what happens in their school days at the end of the day. how is this all going to work out for mr. youngkin there? >> well, i couldn't agree with roland more. it's sad, as a parent, i actually weirdly felt really bad for that school board in tennessee, and i feel really bad for governor youngkin, what we're doing, we're depriving our children of toni...

Album, he would throw me in his car, and we would listen to it from front to back to see what i thought. i remember really loving the thriller album but for the first time in my life, that's when i felt it was different between the two of us. that a shift was happening. he would always come in my room and we'd talk. and this particular time, he came in my bedroom, neither one of us said a word to each other. and then he got up and left. >> roland, i am obsessed, i cannot wait for part two of this documentary. she revealed so much, talked about the secret baby, her relationship with michael. to...

Understand is their fear is driving this. the republican party is a party that appeals to largely white voters. and so they must lean into this as well because they see the train coming and that is they can't win elections if you're only depending on people who are dying at a faster rate than any other group. >> you're 100% right, roland. this is white fear. i mean, this is, you know, a shrinking demographic holding on to power. and brad, i want you to take a listen to the new governor glenn youngkin talk about this tip line. try not to laugh. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> we have ...