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And that is what she wrote in those e-mails. is it credible to you that she could have on her own directed michael flynn to not respond to the sanctions without talking to mike pence or donald trump. >> you threw a critical thing in there, joy, which was on or with jared kushner. i think we have to focus on the role kushner played here, and obviously trump's alter ego son in light of that. the direction came from the top. whether it was at the top if it was donald trump or jared kushner, that remains to be seen. particularly in the face of the transition, as the co-president,

Assange who wound up publishing all these e-mails that were stolen from the democratic headquarters. you've got him dealing with people in that june 9th meeting. he knows what jared kushner knows. he knows what donald jr. knows. he's about as important as flynn is in terms of the kind of information that they could use against not only the president, but his entire family, including don jr., kushner, ivanka. so he is somebody that they really want to keep on a short leash and keep in the ballpark if they can. >> joyce, there's some more reporting tonight, i'd love you to walk us through this f...

Clearly this criticism is important. it's significant. these stories are important. but behind the scenes, it's also key to remember, there are a lot of other folks who also have major legal liabilitieser on the course of the mueller investigation. particularly jared kushner. we don't hear as much about him because folks don't seem to be quite as chatty about his situation vis-a-vis the mueller investigation. but based on the conversations that i have been having over and over, what i hear is that the top concern for people in the white house and for the president's outside allies is what muel...

Against not only the president, but his entire family, including don jr., kushner, ivanka. so he is somebody that they really want to keep on a short leash and keep in the ballpark if they can. >> joyce, there's some more reporting tonight, i'd love you to walk us through this from a legal perspective if you can. about the nature of the surveillance paul manafort was under. we learned there was a fisa warrant, two fisa warrants, it lapsed, there was a new one. today we got more information. i want to read this from "the wall street journal" and get your reaction to this information. the u.s. m...

Kushner. it's unclear what role kushner would play in dousing the flames when half the incoming fire is all about himself. but it seems a f old faces from the campaign may soon be on hand to help. spotted at the white house yesterday, former and formerly fired campaign manager corey lewandowski and david bossie who may be brought back in to the fold to help shape the white house message. the prospect of their return is already causing panic inside the west wing. one white house official told the daily beast it would be another train wreck. another senior aide said they gagged when they first h...