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Pursue regime change in exchange for a freeze in their nuclear technology. >> a freeze is one thing, but you're not optimistic that the elimination of their nuclear program, maybe they would just freeze it the way it is now. >> well, initially a freeze, before you would get to a roll back, but there's no question that the critical point would be breached and would be passed when they would have icbms with nuclearized warheads that could reach the united states. >> or guam and hawaii? >> when the japanese bombed pearl harbor, that wasn't a u.s. state either, it still caused us to enter world wa...

The program which is estimated to have about 15 to 20 nuclear weapons. it wouldn't be a total roll back. >> we have heard hot air going back and forth with north korea a lot of our adult lives. in your view how dangerous is this period right now? >> i think it's dangerous because we have about a year or so before the north koreans may won't have good guidance. if you're firing at a big city it doesn't matter if you're a couple of miles off. >> a year. >> a year. that's what they said according to the washington post about a week and a half ago.

Arsenal. in three years could be half the size of great britain. it is about 100 nuclear weapons. they have been putting out mixed messages about the possibility of jump starting diplomacy. if that does begin the focus would be on capping or freezing the program which is estimated to have about 15 to 20 nuclear weapons. it wouldn't wibe a total roll back. >> we have heard hot air going back and forth with north korea a lot of our adult lives. in your view how dangerous is this period right now? >> i think it's dangerous because we have about a year or so before the north koreans may won't have...

Climate agreement, scott pruitt, the energy -- >> epa. >> epa administrator has said that he intends to roll back as many of the obama-era regulations as he can. we don't know quite what the department of energy is doing, but apparently they are also making efforts. how significant is this roll back that is taking place under the donald trump administration, does it work? >> yes, it does. some of it is being stopped by the congress, the so-called methane rule is being vetoed in the senate. but they're trying to codify some of these destructive changes to eliminate environmental regulations. an...

These vegetable metaphors. i don't like them, even though i use them. look, the problem for us is very clear. we can't bomb or preempt because it's simply too risky. and the administration is prepared to negotiate, but prepared to negotiate only a complete roll back and denuclearization of the weapons system. that's not going to happen. by 2020 the north koreans have going to half the nukes that the brits have right now. the only way i think is to test the proposition, test it, that a discreet back channel between the united states and north korea could at least determine whether or not there ...