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Insurrection? >> well, i mean, that is what the january 6th committee is hoping to get at the heart of. we know in this instance that the two extremists received the money, we know that the programmer had a history of donating to extremists around the world, not even in the united states. so it's just a matter at this point of determining whether those payments were part of a coordinated effort by foreign nationals to help sow doubt and dis unity in the united states. >> you write about a, quote, rolling coup of gop lawmakers receiving corporate donations, despite standing in the way of voting...

And that's what trump wants to continue to do. there is one issue for all republicans to consider right now, and that is to stand up and say the election was a fraud. he really won. >> yes. >> and if you can't say that, nothing else matters. >> so during the election campaign and during your own primary campaign, you were very clear-eyed about the threat to democracy, what about democrats needed to do. you pitched a lot of ideas on this. yet here we are nine months into the biden era, nine months after trump is gone, all of this nonsense, rolling coup. and democrats still kind of taking it eas...

And that's what trump wants to continue to do. there is one issue for all republicans to consider right now, and that is to stand up and say the election was a fraud. he really won. >> yes. >> and if you can't say that, nothing else matters. >> so during the election campaign and during your own primary campaign, you were very clear-eyed about the threat to democracy, what about democrats needed to do. you pitched a lot of ideas on this. yet here we are nine months into the biden era, nine months after trump is gone, all of this nonsense, rolling coup. and democrats still kind of taking it eas...