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Nevada, colorado, virginia, north carolina, all of these swing states that were close, i think if ryan/romney have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay. >> i'm hearing...

Identifying and persuading new supporters and getting them out to vote will matter. close contest. look at the map. new hampshire is likely to end up in the romney column. in recent weeks has been moving that direction. now a tossup state. i subject it is going to do a good turn for a neighbor by going for romney. >> bret: i have 30 seconds left. the impact of this debate here in colorado, karl, then joe, how it affects the electoral map? >> you know, look, my sense on debates is most of the time, not all the time, the arc of the narrative over the course of the three presidential debates is w...

Are 11 different ways to win out ohio. he doesn't give colorado or new hampshire to romney, which i think are both insurance policies. you can say romney is in danger of losing this and obama is in danger of losing this. it comes down to the last ballot on the last evening of the election. this map gives insurance in the pocket. colorado, new hampshire both are going to end up in romney column. >> bret: thanks as always to karl and joe. and karl's point at the beginning there about the record polling, polling is only ramping up as we move closer to election day. since we taped this segment ear...

Let's bring in jamal simmons and rick tyler. good to see you, good morning. rick, top republican official tells politico that president obama has more routes to victory. we know pennsylvania seems to be in obama's column. what is the path that you see for mitt romney right now? >> well, mitt romney has got to continue this trend and continue to make this a referendum on obama. there's a very large anti-obama sentiment out there, but mitt romney has got to convert that sentiment into being pro-romney. >> where does he focus, rick? does he have to win florida? >> i think he's got to win florida....

Shall. after all this, is america. >> our problem with president ob yaum isn't that he is a bad person. okay? by all accounts he, too, is a good husband and a good father. and thanks to practice, a good golfer. our problem is not that he's a bad person. our problem that he's a bad president. >> okay. you want to make my day? all right. >> and nice to see you, sir. >> good to see you this is they say it's a swing state. and the conventions here so tell me what are you going to do because i assume you're going to pound the pavement as a state that goes to the governor romney column. >> that is r...