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That it really was that that set the table for a lot of other problems that he just couldn't overcome throughout this campaign? >> well, i think that the -- whatever momentum romney had from the first debate stopped. and my reading of the polls is the last week had already been going at least slightly in obama's direction. and at least on the first couple of days, from the reaction to what the president did, from the difficulties romney has, this appears to be helping obama some more. and as long as polling stations can open up in places like philadelphia and in northern virginia, then the sto...

And along the jersey shore telling what they were doing, what they were coming back from and what you realized is that we've got union members, firefighters, cops, nurses and others who, you know, are passionate about doing their job and it's amazing to me, startling to me that we have public officials who would attack them. >> well, romney has -- i'm going to pull it aside tonight and i'm not going to make any bones about it because the conversation in this country s hases to dismantle unions. where it hit, firefighters, police officers, nurses, many of them are union folk and many risked the...

Necessarily win the election -- >> nobody is suggesting that. >> there's an important point people need to focus on. when obama lost the first debate, all of us on the left conceded he lost. then when obama won the debate clearly last night, the game that the republicans are playing is to pretend that romney did well, pass the bar, had a good night so they prevent that narrative from being written. and this is a game that republicans played in 2000 when karl rove suggested that george bush would win over 300 electoral votes. it's a game john mccain played in 2008 when he suggested he could com...

Officials. no one from the government, no one from the intel community. >> andrea: at the last debate. the libya question came up and he looks at romney for disdain for bringing it up. he said i'll bring him to justice now! >> kimberly: that is the problem with his foreign policy. reck lest. >> bob: height of juvenile foreign policy to open your mouth before a foreign policy crisis is over. and people are still alive. you say 90 minutes. that is the mindset of the republicans. libya. the world is a big place. sad thing we lost four people. but in the scheme of people it's a big world. a lot to...

If the president says something that opens up -- taps into that feeling governor romney has, he took may be more aggressive and hotter than his advisers have planned for. >> it's true they don't like each other, and mitt romney knows how to get under barack obama's skin. >> and vice versa. what you saw in the first debate was kind of a primal tapping into what both of them feel. foreign policy is a hot button issue. for both these guys, they think they have the far superior world view, even though it's widely discussed and we've talked about it. the issue positions aren't that different, but t...