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They don't approve of the president. they don't have a favorable view of them. they tend to devote for a -- vote for a democratic house candidate in 2018. romney third party voters a little different. they are not necessarily fans of trump. they have an overall unfavorable view but did tend to vote more for republicans in 2018. right now if you ask them i think their views of the 2020 race, they're probably more likely to say trump than a democratic candidate but a large number are uncertain. the romney clinton voters might be increasingly loyal democrats but the romney third party voters are ...

Are there more available democratic voters who stayed home last time or are there more of these romney/clinton potential voters? which is a bigger pot? >> i think that is a really difficult piece of math in part because it is hard to know exactly how many democratic votes were left on the table for hillary clinton in 2016. in my mind i think this may be a choice the democrats don't have to make in some sense. if you're talking about romney clinton voters you're talking about voters a majority of whom want to impeach the president in terms of the polling we've done in late 2018 so there may be ...

Imagine if somebody was running against obama polling in double digits. it would get floor media attention. now trying to cover this administration is lake trying to catch confetti. we can't cover it all. i want to talk about charlie's point about, you know, kind of appealing to some of those voters, you know, the romney/clinton voters. they're still republicans, still ideological differences. when you try to appeal to those people you run the risk. how can you appeal and then come back and talk to your base? why not double down on your base and inspire those people to get out instead of tryin...

Intelligence agencies coming out saying, look. we have foreign adversaries interfering with our elections what does trump know? he certainly does not seem nervous in that sense. regarding nikki haley and the rumors of her joining the ticket, possibly replacing pence with her, i think that's something of note. i will say she is acting lake somebody who is going to run in 2024. she is writing a book this year. she started this organization stand for america. does it matter who is on the ticket? i don't know. funny when charlie said the gop doesn't want a lot of daylight. news flash. there is no ...

>> i think they have to keep that in mind. probably talking about 3% to 5%. that is enough to flip states like pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. there are the romney/clinton voters, people who voted for barack obama twice and then voted for donald trump. if he loses 1%, 2% of the vote in northern wisconsin, people disgusted by what they are seeing, that is going to flip the state. it's all about the electoral college and will all be decided by those states he won by very, very narrow margins. going back to this issue of the primary, you know, these candidates become vehicles. none of them...