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That when times get tough he could be the biggest torpedo to any success for the trump administration. it will be interesting to see what conversations are going on with mr. trump. in the end we'll trust what his judgment is as long as we know it's not being influenced by outside factors. >> some democrats have said they want romney to be secretary of state. are you one of those democrats? >> i certainly think he would legitimize that position, legitimize trump. i tend to think that donald trump needs romney more than romney needs donald trump. he is a pratriot. he wants to be secretary of sta...

Vote counts as much as highly engaged vote. that's the problem. i pointed out kirsten power goes up to wisconsin today and that snapped my head back a little bit. northbound were internal polling up there says there might be a problem in wisconsin. >> well, or it suggests that it's worth the time to make sure that this upper midwest blocking operation that they have got going where they have got this group of states they think they can a combination of which will block romney needs to be absolutely nailed down and why not go? >> bill: because he has got ohio and he has got florida. states like...

This is type of thing in the final sprint can suppress voter turnout. it's very much in the early stages and there will be a lot more of it in the next 15 days. >> shep: thanks, carl. chris wallace back in d.c. handicap this thing, would you? >> interestingly enough, this may seem counter intuitive but i think obama feels that they have to do more in the camp than the romney camp feels. you would think the challenger needs to do more. when i tubing o talk to top officials in romney, romney needs to show that he is sober and solid. he is plausible president. obama camp talks about drawing con t...

Not sum it up. john p. coke tweeted this. the registered voters numbers would seem to indicate that obama can improve by closing enthusiasm, while romney needs to persuade. would you rather be obama or romney? i'm going to put the question to both of you. fred, you first. would you rather be right now obama or romney? >> i would rather be president obama. i mean, look. i think all of us, bill mcinturff and the republicans included, all of us thought this would be a close election. i think the numbers from the poll, they'll look good for the president. the right direction, 41%. people believe t...

Strategy. the political signs probably wrong. point was here, that if romney -- this is what romney needs. needs to be able to all of a sudden learn one-on-one people skills and obama needs to turn back the communication appearances in a row. he has never done. rise to the occasion. he will walk all over him. >> why are you in a bad mood? >> because i was looking for one thing here. just one thing. >> one more thing. >> one thing. >> speaking of one more thing. hit it. >> one more thing is up next. yeah. about time we got out of this show. >> right!