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Of shown that that has decreased and now about 50% -- 52% of south carolinaens still disagree with allowing gay marriage in their state. that's a drastic change from 80% to, you know, 52%. and just, you know, young republicans around the country, polls have shown that republicans under 50, more than half of them, think that gay marriage should be legal. if you look at the supreme court ruling this summer, republicans of all ages, 43% of them agreed with the supreme court ruling that gay marriages should be recognized by the federal government. and we even have seen this change in people who yo...

Of course the shutdown is exhibit a for washington polarization. while we often say d.c. reflects the rest of country, a new survey by nbc news and "esquire" magazine shows that's not the case. not only is the country more purple than you may have thought, the middle is a heck of a lot bigger than you you've been led to believe. according to our survey, more than half of americans are in the political center. just 21% represent the hard left and 28% represent the hard right. i'll go into more detail here. the center itself of course is not one giant block itself, okay? it is -- there is sort o...

From "modern family," don draper, duck dynasty from the richardson family, but clearly the main dude there, our pickup truck guys. most of this group is women. still a third of them that are men. these are highly educated, pretty affluent, more than a third have children at home. these folks are pro gay marriage, they're pro-choice, but they're also pro groun control. they want lelsz government, though, and they're very much in favor of a balanced budget amendment. that's why you can't put them all the way to the left. our nba middle. these were businessmen republicans a generation ago. they s...

Allowed to get married like anybody else. balanced budget amendment only embraced by kefbs for years. half of the political center supports that, too. full results of the new survey are in the newest issue of "esquire." right now we'll do a little deeper dive with three of the men that made it happen. robert blizzard was pollster for mitt romney's campaign and is a partner of public opinion strategy. he and neil newhouse represented the romney wing of our survey team. tim pen netson, president and ceo of a strategy group. obviously he represented the obama team in designing this survey. richar...

And while, you know, there were people who were very loyal democrats and republicans we've known for years through our political work there is a moderate majority in most places in america. and so we took a lot of time during the campaign, looking at their economic lives, their values, and understanding the things that are really important to them about their future. >> robert, when you looked at this survey, was the center bigger than you thought it would be at the end of the day? >> yeah, i think so, chuck. i think the key here is that for the most part you look at independent voters as bein...