The pittsburgh penguins owners. first of all a friend of mine for a long time. he's a great, great negotiator. ron, how about negotiating some of our horrible trade deals that they've made? here's what i want, i want to get him. oh, i would love to have ron berkle. and it's great to have you. and i mean that if you want to get involved in negotiating nafta, i like it, because we are renegotiating nafta, ron. of course he may not like that because maybe least on the other side. that's what's happening because it's so hard to do the trade deals. you are not on the other side of nafta, are you, r...