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u.s./mexico border and how it could work inside governor abbott's plan to pardon a man who was just convicted of murdering a black lives matter protester at a demonstration back in 2020 and we're watching for any new details coming out of kentucky as we wait for the police briefing in the next hour what we know right now about the horrific shooting at a louisville bank that left five dead, including the shooter. our nbc news reporters are covering all of the latest developments, but we want to begin in louisville and nbc's morgan chesky is there now morgan, what's the latest? what ...

You know, he could still pull the plug and not do it this is his moment if he's going to do it history in recent years has not been kind to people who waited for a later moment he's certainly losing out from the rallying effect for trump, around the arraignment and the indictment in new york, and the problem for desantis is that effect is real, and continues. look, trump will be under indictment, and investigation for the rest of the campaign >> for sure! and so if a sufficient number of voters on the right, that's going to be hard sliding. >> well, nick just mentioned something kind of intere...

Politically risky. also, planning a visit later this month to the key battleground of south carolina but with the latest polls showing waning enthusiasm for his candidacy, did desantis miss his moment to get in the race. with us, nick confosori, and msnbc political analyst. well, donald trump is a master at doing this, no question he has been able to dominate the news cycle now he's calling on desantis to get out of the race. maybe it will come to the point where the legislature where desantis has a few friends has to get rid of this law what do you think the desantis strategy is going forward...