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u.s./mexico border and how it could work inside governor abbott's plan to pardon a man who was just convicted of murdering a black lives matter protester at a demonstration back in 2020 and we're watching for any new details coming out of kentucky as we wait for the police briefing in the next hour what we know right now about the horrific shooting at a louisville bank that left five dead, including the shooter. our nbc news reporters are covering all of the latest developments, but we want to begin in louisville and nbc's morgan chesky is there now morgan, what's the latest? what ...

good to be with you, i'm katy tur, as chris jansing just said, we are waiting for police in louisville, kentucky, to update us on the latest mass shooting four dead and nine are wounded at the old national bank sources tell nbc news the shooter is believed to be a current or former employee of the bank it was unclear how the shooter died the question is what does or does not happen now? kentucky is a split state. it has two republican senators, rand paul and mitch mcconnell, who sent tweets offering a version of thoughts and prayers. while its governor is a democrat, a democrat who i...

You know, he could still pull the plug and not do it this is his moment if he's going to do it history in recent years has not been kind to people who waited for a later moment he's certainly losing out from the rallying effect for trump, around the arraignment and the indictment in new york, and the problem for desantis is that effect is real, and continues. look, trump will be under indictment, and investigation for the rest of the campaign >> for sure! and so if a sufficient number of voters on the right, that's going to be hard sliding. >> well, nick just mentioned something kind of intere...