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was struggling. >> i always thought i was pretty empathetic, emphatic. i think i was very, excuse me, empathetic. you know, that's an example of the stroke, empathetic. before having a stroke. but now after having that stroke is, i really understand, you know, much more kind of the challenges that americans have day in and day out. >> what you saw and heard there, the auditory processing challenges, the speech challenges -- howard: the nbc correspondent also shared this observation with her viewers -- >> we did find that in small talk before the interview without captioning it seemed...

Correspondent and anchor. and, griff, how did nury martinez cling to her seat for days as protesters and finally president biden calls for her -- called for her and the other two council members in that meeting to resign? >> well, howie, first of all, let's just step back and say we certainly got an insight into really the machinations and the inter-fighting that goes on in any major city council. but this tape undeniably exposes unbelievable racism at the highest levels, the latino ranks of the city council is. n if ury martinez, perhaps, delivered a case study of how not to handle things bec...