At those who are at risk of being lured into these gangs, the violence interruption does work. that the' why president biden has committed federal funding to work with community-based violence interrupters. this does work. what we've got to remember is it takes the partnership of everyone. it takes the partnership of law enforcement, it takes the partnership of prosecutors and communities to tackle this long term. we don't want to put a band aid on it and deal with the emergency of today. we have to deal with the root cause analysis of why this is happening. >> karol, real quickly, there is so...