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Coming in, recidivism is around 6 or 7 percent, failure to appear rate or people to appear in court is lower. They are walking people out of jail. Weve just come out of a difficult 45 years and that is budget years with a lot of social services being cut and really at the end of the day when you are talking about it and talking about housing and talking about employment, you are talking about counseling; you are talking about substance abuse. When there is not access to those services and you are trying to wrap it around. Come full circle to your question, how do you now relate to the Risk Ass...

Going to pay for that . The taxpayers or the defendant . Generally i hear the models the defendant, does he want to go to work with a leg monitor on his leg or security bond. You are innocent until proven guilty. And the other thing about the pretrial incarceration figures. They are not there because the family cant release the money. And its hard to get the numbers, the transparency is not there on pretrial release figures. But these people are in custody and they you know i lost my train of thought. Thats a senior moment. I was going to make a good point and i apologize. Let me go to your ne...

Assesses risk and where as 20 years ago, there is Risk Assessment side. What you have to do is realize limited resources. We simply must focus ourn our energies now. You have to focus your services and get obviously the return. Thats where the services have been. There has been a tremendous advantage in the last 5 years. Everyday our office is changing. I fully expect that as this is happening now, our case managers, the challenge for our case managers, they are going to have to adapt to look at these practices in the same way. But you cant substitute great case manager and social services and...

Have a no commercial bill system that could be done more fairly if it is done based on some clear objectives in factors that are prestated so its not something that is simply left to the individual judgment of a judicial officer to do so arbitrarily. Let me ask mr. Looeng, perhaps you can tell the audience about the organization you lead and your experience with risk in Needs Assessment tools or the kind of evidence based factors that mr. Gas skon is referencing. Sn thank you, jeff, the project has in existence since 1976 and its a nonprofit organization. When we first came across this was a h...

Because if the Constitutional Rights can find to incarcerate, they can talk about bail. I think what is so dangerous about that moment and it came to a surface in the bail reform act of 1984, the federal law, the birth of preventative detention which one thought was clearly unconstitutional and then became a public good that changed the whole view of a system. Now we live in a justice preemptive justice, but they will commit other crimes in the future. I would say if we all now agree or at least many of us agree with Justice Kennedy that the result has been a prison system that is barbaric tha...