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warning or a citation being issued turned into a pursuit. as mr. walker turned onto the entrance ramp to route 8, and the shot is fired, that changes the nature of the contact. 40 seconds. a half a mile from the location of the traffic stop, you hear the gunshot, and everything else i've discovered. and again, that change is the -- that changes the whole nature of the traffic stop. it went from being a routine traffic stop to now a public safety issue. >> and with me now is retired lapd police sergeant cheryl dorsey, also the author of "black and blue, creation of a social advocate"....

Person. i've been able to discover what empathy is, what remorse is. >> and yet lennon is a murderer. he executed a man in cold blood -- alex lawson, whose family lennon knew. >> this is alex's death certificate. alex was shot about 18 times with an m-16. taisha lawson is alex's sister. >> he blew parts of his body off and continued letting rounds go. you didn't have to shoot him 18 times to kill him. 18 times. that's a cruel, cold person. john lennon is a killer. he's a killer.