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Interim period, can it achieve that breakthrough, the president and secretary of state are talking about in elimination of an iranian nuclear military capability? >> well, this is an interim deal. i would quibble with the word historic deal. in 2003 and 2005, the entire iranian program was frozen. this is not that. it is according to intelligence people i have spoken to and the word of the deal, it's being described as significant rollbacks, significant freezing of the iranian nuclear program as it stands right now in return for very modest sanctions relief that is reversible. to put into cont...

Dismantling of the iranian nuclear program. if that can be achieved, that's preferable. israel always reserves the right as president obama has said, the right to defend ourselves by ourselves against possible threats. >> spokesman for the prime minister of israel, thank you so much for coming. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me, wolf. >> we'll have more on this historic deal just ahead. a panel of experts standing by to weigh in.

Contemptible figure. he said the word things in public that simply threatened israel. he was aggressive about the nuclear program. just absolutely contemptible. no u.s. official or european official could hold their head up seriously and have a conversation or even a negotiation under ahmadinejad. he's gone. now there's a new president who has made it very, very clear that sanctions relief and a different iran is not just sanctions relief, he's said we want an iran of moderation. no extremism. you know, proper relations with the rest of the world. that's what the iranian people want. so what's...

As they said must go away and no room. is there a real difference between rowhani and the foreign minister on the one hand and the supreme leader, the ayatollah, on the other. >> they are clearly part of the same system. it's a system that remains anti-american. what we do see is she's willing to endorse a deal that involves constraint on the nuclear program and that leaves the world safer today. >> what's your bottom line assessment as far as the deal is concerned, does it make the world a safer place or a more dangerous place? >> i think i would say that it's a somewhat safer place. i don't ...

Wants to renege on some of these agreements, these sanctions do remain intact. i think what i would say is that if it took marathon diplomacy to reach only an interim deal to reach a final resolution to this it will resemble an ultramarathon through mine fields. difficult to reach a resolution. >> why not give peace a chance? >> i think we have been giving peace a chance. the europeans have been trying to engage the iranians enthusiastically since 1992 and guess what? they discovered it didn't really work. >> there's a new president now it rowhani, who is different than ahmadinejad. >> but row...