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a gun show or whether it be internet sales or classified ads. you know, they just -- you know, ratchet up the rhetoric. passed the lies on and stuck to this party line that was defined by lies. >> did you get the sense when -- when somebody -- throws that back in your face, do you get the sense that they had internalized that and believed that was what this bill would do? did you get the sense they were just kind of going through the motions and got to tell them why we are against and it this is what we will go with because that's the script? >> sadly going through the motions. the staff in most situation are sympathetic when they bump into someone like me. i was with roxana green whose daughter was shot and killed in tucson. 9-year-old christina taylor. i was with people from aurora. i was with people from newtown and virginia tech. and day-to-day shootings. we are trying to have a logical conversation about let's apply a background check to all buyers. we do background checks in so many walks of life.
themselves. gun violence or who have had a child or a loved one murdered by a gun. >> that was patricia naish expressing her outrage. joining me for an exclusive interview, roxana green, the mother of christina-taylor green, the mother of the youngest victim in the tucson shooting. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> what was it like to be in the gallery today when you saw those votes go down? >> it was very, very disappointing. i was very disgusted by the outcome but not defeated. we'll be back. it will happen. >> and talk to us just on a personal level how you get the
strength to mount a public crusade like this which inevitably is a constant reminder of the tragic way you lost your daughter. >> well, i come from very strong people. my mom was a very strong woman. my mother was a strong woman. christina would have been a very successful and strong woman had she not been robbed of the opportunity. so i am doing this for my daughter. i'm doing it for all of the children and innocent people out there. and i'm really confidant that it's going to happen. it didn't happen today but it will happen. >> roxana, one of the things that we keep hearing from the nra is that nothing that is being proposed would affect the outcome from these shootings and yet we know from the forensic evidence that your daughter was hit with a bullet some time after the 12th bullet and under what used to be a law in this country, imagimagazines were li
two guns that we have locked in safe at home. what we do want is what the majority of nra members and other americans want, responsible changes in our laws to require responsible gun ownership and reduce gun violence. taking the argument beyond gunowners versus nongunowner, taking the argument beyond absolutist gun anarchy versus a complete gun ban, this turn away from that kind of binary nonsense is the kind of turn in the conversation that typically signifies that there might be movement ahead, that people are getting real about maybe actually getting something done. at the same time on the same day, on the same anniversary, another overture today from roxana green. the mother of 9-year-old christina taylor green who was killed in the tucson shooting two years ago. she appears in an ad that appeared in seven cities today including washington, d.c. and tucson. this ad is paid for by the
drones armed in u.s. skies being used to arrest people in north dakota. the second amendment isn't there for duck hunting. it's there to protect us from tyrannical government and street thugs. >> joining me is roxana green, whose daughter christina taylor green was killed in that tucson massacre, and former governor of pennsylvania and mayor of philadelphia, ed ren del. you have both had your own experiences. it's so nice to have you on. thank you. what's your sort of mental and emotional reaction when you hear someone like alex jones spew that sort of armageddon language about guns? >> i'm speechless. i really don't even know what to say. i have no comment. unbelievable. >> governor, you have experienced -- pennsylvania is relatively free of insane people, but you hear of people -- this guy is talking about the united states being a tierney coming to take his guns
stake. it's something i'm just going to fight for for as long as it takes. i am really confident they're going to do something now ever since newtown. i don't know why it keeps on happening but i think there's got to be a sensible plan, common sense gun regulation out there. i just hope and pray that we can have background checks on every single gun that's purchased, that, you know, we go back to the ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and we make gun trafficking a federal offense. >> can we do those things, governor, that she just mentioned? >> they've all been done at some time or another then discarded. >> sure, we can, chris. and roxana is part of the reason and so are the tucson and virginia tech victims who joined together in an ad. so are the aurora victims. all of us have to keep the pressure on. what happens is when there's a mass murder, everyone is outraged. we have wonderful memorial services, there are tears and we
understand it. these are supposed to be safe places for our children and for innocent people. so i just encourage people to visit demand a plan.org and get involved so we can do something about this. >> i want to recommend to everybody as governor rendell said a minute ago, everybody should watch this thing on youtube, this crazy guy, alex jones, going up against piers morgan. that will tell you what the face of the enemy looks like on this issue better than anything he can say. this guy is crazy. he thinks george walker bush, the president of the united states, ordered the destruction of 9/11. he's the guy that -- some sort of pumping action blew up the world trade centers and the pentagon. he did it. that's what this nut case believes. anyway, thank you, roxana green and for your family we can only ex prus our sympathy again and former governor ed rendell thank you for your guts. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it.
publicist/rabbi/shvin publicist/rabbi/shrink. you have to listen. you have to be strong. you have to understand where they're at. some families want to go and hide. some families want to get out there and talk about what they went through. we've seen roxana green, christina taylor-green's mother on a number of shows talking, trying to be empathetic, but she's also working towards solution. and i think that's hugely important. take what's in the heart and put it out to the world. >> i think you're right. people are feeling this almost any other way than a tragedy we've experienced in this country. but i still get a lot of e-mails from people asking me what's it-t like. it's very difficult to put into words. you just got here. and i'm wondering what your visceral reaction has been? >> i'm trying to keep from crying. i really am. we just saw a couple minutes ago. i see the parents with their
will you always find people who are helping. to this day, especially in time of disaster, i remember my mother's words and i'm comforted by realizing there are still so many helpers, so many caring people in the world." agency of going on the air at 10:00 this morning, that had been shared more than 89,000 times. eric, what are you seeing? >> there you see some good in social media. very good in social media. there is a way to constructively deliver a message that helps people, you know, in this very, very tragic time. and that is very positive. and somebody encouraged. and everybody should be involved in that way. >> eric, always good to have you. we'll be right back. yaver baum. aver baum.
9-year-old daughter, christina taylor-green was killed while he waited in line to talk to gabby giffords. roxana penned a book called "as good as she imagined." she joins me here. i have to imagine witnessing what's going on in newtown, connecticut, this must be very hard for you. how are you and your family doing today? and what is your message for newtown? >> well, our heart breaks for newtown. we offer condolences. love and prayers. we feel their pain. we know exactly what they're going through and i just hope that they stay strong and peace. >> one thing with you, you've been very forward in the wake of christina taylor-green's death. you have gotten very involved in try to see gun laws changed.