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A gun show or whether it be internet sales or classified ads. you know, they just -- you know, ratchet up the rhetoric. passed the lies on and stuck to this party line that was defined by lies. >> did you get the sense when -- when somebody -- throws that back in your face, do you get the sense that they had internalized that and believed that was what this bill would do? did you get the sense they were just kind of going through the motions and got to tell them why we are against and it this is what we will go with because that's the script? >> sadly going through the motions. the staff in mo...

Strength to mount a public crusade like this which inevitably is a constant reminder of the tragic way you lost your daughter. >> well, i come from very strong people. my mom was a very strong woman. my mother was a strong woman. christina would have been a very successful and strong woman had she not been robbed of the opportunity. so i am doing this for my daughter. i'm doing it for all of the children and innocent people out there. and i'm really confidant that it's going to happen. it didn't happen today but it will happen. >> roxana, one of the things that we keep hearing from the nra is ...

Two guns that we have locked in safe at home. what we do want is what the majority of nra members and other americans want, responsible changes in our laws to require responsible gun ownership and reduce gun violence. taking the argument beyond gunowners versus nongunowner, taking the argument beyond absolutist gun anarchy versus a complete gun ban, this turn away from that kind of binary nonsense is the kind of turn in the conversation that typically signifies that there might be movement ahead, that people are getting real about maybe actually getting something done. at the same time on the ...

Drones armed in u.s. skies being used to arrest people in north dakota. the second amendment isn't there for duck hunting. it's there to protect us from tyrannical government and street thugs. >> joining me is roxana green, whose daughter christina taylor green was killed in that tucson massacre, and former governor of pennsylvania and mayor of philadelphia, ed ren del. you have both had your own experiences. it's so nice to have you on. thank you. what's your sort of mental and emotional reaction when you hear someone like alex jones spew that sort of armageddon language about guns? >> i'm sp...

Stake. it's something i'm just going to fight for for as long as it takes. i am really confident they're going to do something now ever since newtown. i don't know why it keeps on happening but i think there's got to be a sensible plan, common sense gun regulation out there. i just hope and pray that we can have background checks on every single gun that's purchased, that, you know, we go back to the ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and we make gun trafficking a federal offense. >> can we do those things, governor, that she just mentioned? >> they've all been d...