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Is prove by a preponderance of the evidence. manafort is being proved to have lied and violated his plea agreement. so this is not going to bode well for ami. >> well, katy, it's not your fault you're reporting this stuff, but it seems like president trump came to office with this gallery of this world we didn't know about. we wouldn't know anybody about pecker who does catch and can kill or stormy daniels or karen mcdougal. this horrible rose gallery of people. the world hedges from, roy cone world, it's horrible. now we're basically doing l.a. confidential in the white house, this kind of cr...

Throughout, that was a great service and something that was virtually churchillian in that terrible hour. it's been downhill since and accelerating, i think. part of what's happened -- and it's tricky to explain to people who maybe haven't lived here, but basically this is the new york city tabloid political culture has gone south to washington. >> uh-huh. >> and it's a world of the new york post and 21 and lots of stake houses, lots of onion loaves, the grand havana room which is a great place, i think. it's the last cigar bar. let's not be too negative here, but it's this roy cone world of j...