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Actually have turned it bidenomics, and now every time someone says oh there is a new road over there is a new factory, it is bidenomics. that is one of the reasons i think they sort of doing that like crafting that message. and, look it is going to take time, because unless there is a infusion of capital coming from federal, government is not gonna happen overnight. it's gonna take almost ten years. that is what into start basically paving the road. but in their effort to ensure that red states purple states and blue states are hearing from his cabinet, what they are also doing is giving a we...

Takes time you get this across, and you know the way we run conveyance, we don't run with a lot of slides. it is like 30 seconds. how does this administration, this campaign, actually show the good news that they say they have accomplished? >> i think one way they actually have turned it bidenomics, and now every time someone says oh there is a new road over there is a new factory, it is bidenomics. that is one of the reasons i think they sort of doing that like crafting that message. and, look it is going to take time, because unless there is a infusion of capital coming from federal, governm...

With this, it's so interesting that rudy. stuff it's all has come, you know, it's been able to be prosecuted through this adult survivors act. this was signed into law by our female governor who we would not have had if not for me to. i think that it's pretty interesting that we would not have had this huge need to, you know, revival, had not been for the election of donald trump. i do think it's pretty interesting. again, i don't know that e. jean carroll's victory, and a court, telling trump that he had to pay for $5 million, you know, for defamation, and sexual assault, will move the needle...

>> well, we have seen this again and again, right? and we have seen it with abortion. abortion law for republican in 22 -- 2018. yeah, i mean, i think you are going to see this more. and certainly his -- his message is not a winning message for most people. it just sort of sings to this maga base. but it doesn't -- it really doesn't connect with a lot of swing voters. i think people are going to continue to find this distasteful. we saw that you can do trumpism in ruby red states. but you can't do trumpism in even states like arizona. and ask non governor kari lake. i mean, i think we can see ...

His message is not a winning message for most people. it just sort of sings to this mug a base. but it doesn't -- it really doesn't connect with a lot of swing voters. i think people are going to continue to find this distasteful. we saw that you can do trumpism in ruby red states. but you can't do trumpism in even states like arizona. and ask non governor kari lake. i mean, i think we can see that in the swing states this kind of stuff does not play. thank god. >> we will wait and see how it does play out. carol, please stick around. we've got more to discuss after the break. next, george san...