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Shooting war and i think that president obama wants to be extremely careful so america doesn't become the kind of target, reason, crusader for this, it is absolutely on purpose. >> chris: bill, let's talk about the mission. you heard, earlier in the show, admiral mullen say his orders are clear, protect the civilians, don't overthrow qaddafi, that is not the point. and can we live with qaddafi in any sort of power and create a lot of trouble. >> no, we can't and won't leave him in power, the immediate military mission, admiral mullen described the political role is to remove him and military a...

Rule noout going in with peace-keeping forces, and, we end up sending in peace-keeping forces. we did that in kosovo and got rid of milosevic. we need to get rid of qaddafi and i think we were slow in doing what we had to do but we have to be effective and we'll see if it is sufficient. we can't, i think -- a hope the obama administration is not taking the position, we hope it works out. we have u.s. forces committed and we can rhetorically pretend we are following, not leading but we need scheduto succeed. >> the president said tuesday after the highly controversial meeting at the white house...