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Trump in the election, that should be obvious that's why you got in you believe you are the person to have the nomination, not donald trump. you need to beat him. i think that's the only way you can go. if you're goal is to preserve standing with republican voters i understand, it's actually a slam dunk. do what some of these folks are doing. run interference, top whataboutism, all the talking points are easy, biden, clinton, they are easy. you don't think about it. but if you're goal is to defeat him do or not serving any real purpose. frankly i wish some of these people were just trump out o...

Of weaponizing our sacre system of justice agains president trump. he also said they will hol alvin bragg and hi unprecedented use of power t account. you have known him a long time as a fellow member of congress in california. what do you think is motivatin him in this moment >> i think what's motivating him is he senses the base of the republican party they are still with donald trump, and therefore he will still be with donald trump he is doing what he, jim jordan, and others did during th impeachment proceedings. and that is, act as a kind o surrogate criminal defense tea for donald trump ...

Be involved, because it is going to be something that is going to draw an awful lot of attention and perhaps even protests. whether this happens tuesday or not, he's calling people to show up on tuesday. you have to be ready for that, not just for protests, but any counter demonstrations that could happen. >> might that relationship that secret service has with the former president, might they have tipped him off to help precipitate this kind of social media post that the former president would say and make that statement that it would be tuesday? >> i don't think there's any indication of tha...

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Cabinet approval, excuse me, vice presidential approval, et cetera, and you read this and you go, where is the protection here? where is the protection for the american public? and there seems to be really none. >> he argues that he was part of the protection, which is yes stayed even though -- >> that's the rational, right? >> one of the examples is where he said he was worried that trump could use the military because obviously trump's the commander in chief, he could use the military to seize ballot boxes. and that goes to esper's talk about people staying trying to preserve control, trying...