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People to assume it was posturing, in retrospect, the zigs and zags, that was all very real. >> any historical precedent for the public playing out of this saga? obviously a lot of people take a long time, and as you say, his emotional predicament is unprecedented. has there been a public wishing and waiting? >> oh, absolutely. mario cuomo famously in 1991, the primary process that bill clinton finally won in the democratic party, mario cuomo kept on giving signals, i will, i won't did not declare-not going to run until the 20th of december, so that's later in the process that we're talking ab...

Long time, and as you say, his emotional predicament is unprecedented. has there been a public wishing and waiting? >> oh, absolutely. mario cuomo famously in 1991, the primary process that bill clinton finally won in the democratic party, mario cuomo kept on giving signals, i will, i won't did not declare-not going to run until the 20th of december, so that's later in the process that we're talking about. robert kennedy, when he was thinking about whether to run lbj over the vietnam war issue in late 1967, 1968 was agonized, finally only declared 16th of march of that election year, the sprin...

Unprecedented. has there been a public wishing and waiting? >> oh, absolutely. mario cuomo famously in 1991, the primary process that bill clinton finally won in the democratic party, mario cuomo kept on giving signals, i will, i won't did not declare-not going to run until the 20th of december, so that's later in the process that we're talking about. robert kennedy, when he was thinking about whether to run lbj over the vietnam war issue in late 1967, 1968 was agonized, finally only declared 16th of march of that election year, the spring of the year that election would have been held. mich...