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He has used the resonance of this talk radio hosts, fox news as well. >> i think he needs surrogates that he needs reassurance to his base. >> he has no war room. >> exactly. we don't know if he is going to have a war room. which is insane. communications 101 is you have a war room when you have a crisis on your hands. president clinton had one. the trump administration for them to even consider not having one is kind of crazy. look, if he needs to go back to his base and reassure them and validate them, yes, he needs rush limbaughs, judge jeanine on fox news. he needs members of the intellige...

Mcconnell and says okay we're going to do this >> yes, what is required here is prejudice leadership. republicans hoping to represent suburban districts in states with large suburban areas in the future understand that sensible limited effective gun safety changes are necessary to win those votes, but it's going to take discipline and consistency from the president of the united states. he's going to have to outline those changes he will support, perhaps expanded background checks, perhaps limitations on large magazines. he's going to have to say those things publicly and stick with it in the ...

Thanks to both of you, mara and tal. i turn to democratic congresswoman jan shaq schakowsky of illinois. gad to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> make sense of there's, we just showed the rush limbaugh conversation. as a member of congress, you're dealing with the serious, which is the president trying to do this power grab and the silly, which is him shouting out rush limbaugh on friday to explain what he is doing. so how do you make sense of that? what are you focused on? and will this in your view ultimately stand up? will he get to spend this money lawfully? >> well, he isn't spending t...

Primary election right now. see supposed to be governing. >> a one-note band or more embarrassingly milli vanilli and he is performing these songs? >> it's before my time, ari. >> tal, can i fill you in for the milli vanilli? >> i'm here for you. i think rush limbaugh is being a little glib here. does anyone think that he is sitting in the west wing, scribbling on a piece of paper, coming up with policy ideas? no. but that's not what is really being suggested. the problem here is that president trump sort of lives in an echo chamber. we know he excessively watches cable news. he really focuses...

The abortion issue almost always plays out that way. this is conservatives having been vocally against this in public. donald trump being for it because of his old campaign promise, then trying to back down and not being allowed to by the rush limbaughs and the ann coulters. take a listen to rush saying, no don't worry, that's not the case, which from some people seems like a clue that is the case. here is rush limbaugh and trump. >> rush limbaugh, i think he is a great guy. he's got one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. i mean, this guy is unbelievable. they don't decide p...