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Texas, everyone i knew hated her. there's been a large psych of the hillary hating. i thought one she stepped back we wouldn't see it, but clearly we still are. >> the book is a really interesting book, very well written. you write about some conclusions you come to about the campaign and the campaign coverage that maybe you didn't see at the time, particularly around the e-mail coverage and the podesta and hacked e-mails. in retrospect, what do you they about the hacked e-mails were covered? >> right. i was on my way to the newsroom. it was december, i was still in the post-election haze, and...

Readiness to do? >> sure. that remains to be seen. i'm hopeful -- i'm excited about hearing what he has to say. >> i think all of us are excited to hear about what he has to say. as you also note, former cia, john brennan, expressing concern last week that some americans may have been led down what he described as a treasonous path by russian spies, either knowingly or unknowingly. do you believe jared kushner may have been a target of russian intelligen intelligence services? >> well, it wouldn't surprise me. i think director brennan and ashley attended that hearing. director brennan has deca...