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Government. >> how do you look at them and say, how do you deny them access? i don't get that. >> it's difficult. >> well, it should be difficult. >> it is difficult. i'm sorry, sir. >> park services should be ashamed of themselves. >> i'm not ashamed. >> you should. >> -- people who aren't passing the budget. >> this woman is doing her job, just like him. a 30-year federal veteran. i'm out of work. >> the reason you are is because mr. reid -- >> no, it's because the government went do its job and pass a budget. >> let's take this somewhere else. >> good for that guy in the bicycle helmet, spe...

In fact, government shutdowns, like the one we're having right now, are abnormal, but not extremely freakish, right? i think we've had 17 since the modern budget process was inaugurated. the most actually under ronald reagan and tip o'neill, who of course we all now think of, chris matthews just wrote a book about this, about having this amazing relationship, those were the most shutdowns. but they handled the debt ceiling negotiation in 2011, the way they're handling it now is genuinely unprecedented. you have people like ted cruz going around saying to cameras, it's not that big a deal if we...

Fund it for a period of time without any delayed nonsense, but the number attached to the clean cr, if you're going the fund the government how much should the government get? what is the budget, it is a budget bill. let's start out with what the obama administration asked for when they released their budget. 1 trillion, 203 billion, that was the obama target for the budget. by comparison, this was the 2011 compromise, a budget of 1 trillion 66 billion, and here was the budget put together by senate democrats, it is lower still. now let's look at the senate continuing resolution. that is the l...

But the budget has not been passed the last four years, this is the first time one got out of both houses. the simple fact is our government now is functioning under this abberation where you have a system that forces action, the debt ceiling is the ultimate event that can't be used. i have said all along we shouldn't take a hostage you can't shoot as a party. and i've always said that. the debt ceiling falls in that category. but that doesn't mean there is not an opportunity to discuss what is causes the debt ceiling to go up. well, why do you have to increase the debt ceiling? the government...

Seuss and everything else they want to do. >> for the first four years under president obama, even first two when democrats controlled everything there was no budget. i love that you now demand a budget. republicans have been demanding budgets for the past four years. it's nice to finally have one. >> you didn't pass a budget you pass a c.r. i think we all agree here it would be great to get a grand bargain, at least a budget. but in the absence of that your job is to pass a c.r. the president agreed to 100% of the republican budget number on the c.r. >> let me tell you what democrats are not ...