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But the number attached to the clean cr, if you're going the fund the government how much should the government get? what is the budget, it is a budget bill. let's start out with what the obama administration asked for when they released their budget. 1 trillion, 203 billion, that was the obama target for the budget. by comparison, this was the 2011 compromise, a budget of 1 trillion 66 billion, and here was the budget put together by senate democrats, it is lower still. now let's look at the senate continuing resolution. that is the level of spending that democrats in the senate had voted for...

With the c.r. let's put them together, go to conference committee. what happened? harry reid said absolutely not. they voted it down and it went away. we won't negotiate. we won't talk. >> talking about the real budget. there was a chance for a conference on the real budget. that's how congress is really supposed to work. [ overlapping speakers ] >> the house passed the budget and the senate passed a budget. >> in the divided government we've all seen the past two years, there is zero chance these people are working together. let's be realistic here on a budget. they wouldn't even go to confer...

It is $986 billion. that, that you see, 986, that is the clean cr that democrats are asking the house republicans to accept. so we've come a long way, obviously, from the democratic preference of the obama budget or even the senate original budget. and then this, this is what that clean cr is shockingly close to, the 2014 ryan budget of $966 billion, the ryan budget. >> this year's ryan budget turns out looks like last year's ryan republican budget. i wasn't the only one that said gee whiz, not again. >> there are many reasons to oppose the ryan budget. paul ryan's budget is march madness. >> ...

Premise. he's actually given up 100% of the position to the republicans. the c.r. is a republican document. the republicans wanted 988 billion. he said we will give you 100% of what you want on the budget. where do you negotiate after giving people 100% of what they want? >> tom tom tom. >> emily, please educate tom. >> former congressman, first of all the number we're talking about in the c.r. spending levels was negotiated in 2001. this was agreed upon. because i think on all of our sides we agree that $17 trillion is just a little bit high, the debt to have, that we need to start bringing i...

Issue. >> don't you think it's a little hypocritical though when the ryan budget, i can give you numbers, does decimate programs that were to keep veterans off the street, help them. decimated those programs a few months ago and making those votes and now demagoguing the issue. >> the sequester was president obama's idea. the sequester is having a worse effect on defense and veterans than anything this paul ryan budget that has not been implemented has suggested. >> was the sequester actually supposed to be implemented? they love saying -- >> it was agreed upon to be something both sides disli...