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That mean to you? how should democrats perform -- conduct themselves as an opposition party when it comes to dealing with president trump? >> there are probably a number of areas where we can work with them. infrastructure is one. he may have a conflict with his own party on that. we have been trying for years to have a bipartisan substantial investment in infrastructure. we'll see if republicans go along with this, but i think that's one area. but there are going to be areas where we don't agree. for example, i'll just speak for myself here, but i think it's true of a lot of democrats. if pre...

Problems that down-ballot republicans are worried about but also, what is the republican party in 2016? what are you voting for? what are you getting when you vote for this party in 2016? >> it's funny because people talk about a three legged stool of conservatism. trump has kicked out all three legs of the stool. he does not run on social issues at all. it's not at all clear if you're a serious social conservative he's your guy. he's abandoned the conservative positions on trade, the economic aspects of immigration, doesn't talk about taxes very much, doesn't embrace the bush vision of foreig...

Positions on trade, the economic aspects of immigration, doesn't talk about taxes very much, doesn't embrace the bush vision of foreign policy. so if you take away all of the policy stuff, all you have left is sort of this anger. and that's what donald trump has run on and it's left the down-ballot ka down-ballot candidates a little bit awash as well. >> in 2012, the ryan budget was a manifesto and more than that, an operational document that was actually a plan for what the priorities were and they got attacked over it and i, for one, was not a big fan of it but it was a thing that, this is w...

>> this -- >> how we want to spend it. >> here's my question to you. this sounds like a good idea as policy goes. but you've got a minority in the senate. the author of the ryan budget which just a few years back the first iteration of it wanted to essentially privatize medicare is now the speaker of the house. have you had any interest from republicans on any of this? is this a doable, accomplishable thing with the current congress? >> so let me point out that republicans have criticized this particular loophole already, which is really interesting. senator grassley has gone after it. senator...

Anything, just take exactly that money where right now taxpayers are subsidizing ceos, how about if we take that money and make a one-time payment to the social security recipients and the vets, make a one-time payment to make up for the fact that they're not getting a cost of living this year? we've got the money. >> this -- >> how we want to spend it. >> here's my question to you. this sounds like a good idea as policy goes. but you've got a minority in the senate. the author of the ryan budget which just a few years back the first iteration of it wanted to essentially privatize medicare is ...