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>> well, that was the testimony of mr. grush urn oath, and it sounded like he was prepared to present information in a closed session to congress. we were seeing objects on a daily basis that we couldn't attribute to any of our assets, our technology or our capabilitying s. and right now the commercial pilots that are dealing with this don't feel comfortable reporting it, and that's a problem. neil: now, ryan, there was other presentations that looked at evidence of former aircraft, whatever you want to call it, and that -- we have these. we have even these nonhuman bodies. so what's wrong if ...

Outlined as ryan, you know, presented it. what do you say? >> well, i think we can just reference the story that representative gaits told during the hearing himself. him and other representatives went down to an air force base in florida to attempt to speak to various pilots who had reached out because they had been observing objects on their radars and camera system ises that they couldn't explain, that they felt was a safety risk, and they were not in a position that they felt safe to be able to report that. in fact, it was reported that they felt more comfortable destroying those tapes tha...

Forward right now attached to the national defense authorization act of 2024, next year's ndaa, that states exactly this, it's called the disclosure act of 2023. it creates a review panel that will create a disclosure process that will review this information, it will determine whether it is a national security issue or not, and then it will disclose that information to the public. is and so to your point, i think there are processes being put in place right now that help people understand exactly what the government is seeing. neil: very quickly, ryan, any thoughts on possibly this could be s...

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