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In fact, would champion your criticism of barack obama being too weak on putin. has this oddly backfired -- was putin too successful in some cases and now the reaction to trump, the fear of being seen as too close to russia, that it's actually is now going to make it harder for putin ever to find allies in the united states? >> you know, it will have temporary success. as always, you know, dictators, they do much better tactically, it was a tactical success for putin. strategically it's his loss. now bipartisan correlation and sooner or later, we'll see the united states changing it's policy q...

>> so now that he's watching the first month and a half of this new president trump, and on one hand, he thought, this is great. because foreign policy wise, he's a nationalist, i'm a nationalist. but now word is, he's turning on him. why would he be? >> no, he's not turning on him. russian propaganda, it's russian media they call under total control of vladimir putin is viciously anti-american. despite being anti-american, they do not criticize donald trump personally. >> they separate him. >> exactly. >> they go after obama, obama's loyalists, they harshly criticize the deep state, fbi, cia,...

Pretty sure exactly how putin operates and more definitive about what happened in his mind probably because he's witnessed russia doing these things, oh by the way, he's had his own life threatened by putin over the years. there isn't that definitiveness in the united states on this yet. >> no. >> there is a lot to glean from him. >> there's not that definitiveness. a lot of smoke, so far no fire. one group of people say, listen, with all this smoke, by now you should have found a fire. you can't keep saying is and saying and saying it. >> the best spin the trump people have right now. >> ther...

Certain a. coverage and if you're -- there's no mandate for requiring you to pay in if you're not going to get health care, but if you suddenly need health care, the money that you're going to need to pay if there is some sort of lapse is astronomical which will be completely prohibited. people will end up going to those emergency rooms, they will end up not being able to afford those bills, and that will end up being put on the backs of everybody else. >> and what does he do when the cbo score does come and showing what 10 to 15 million people are going to lose health care? >> the white house...

Strategist to hillary clinton's presidential campaign and now an analysis. welcome all. charlie, this is your party. and so, we looked at this health care -- that it feels as if it's exposing the identity crisis -- look, both parties have identity crisis, one's in charge, it's the republicans, and this is exposing it. >> yeah, you didn't know better, you'd think that after eight years in opposition, they don't have a governing philosophy that being in charge is harder than being in opposition. but yeah, you are seeing that. and i think you're going see this push/pull come, you can call this ry...