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During the clinton administration and were way to the right on gun issues. but now as governor is much more -- sounds like he's much more open, much more moderate on the issue, willing to listen and willing to push things, including, it sounds like, some version of the assault weapons ban which was in effect nationally for a number of years but expired during the obama era. look, kasich does sort of represent a part of the republican party that is its own -- you know, its own silo right now. there aren't that many prominent national republicans who are willing to even say what he just said in ...

Historian and professor julian zelitzer and political activist ryan zela. thank you so much to both of you. what we haven't heard from the president is meaningful dialogue about gun control. that's about to change, apparently, as the president is set to hold a listening session with high schoolteachers and students on wednesday. still unclear where the teachers are coming from. does this signal the president is willing to make some changes or at least listen about them? >> well, we see he's willing to listen but it's unclear how much of what he hears will affect him. so far he's been pretty ad...

Of gun control in washington. >> and you know, ryan, the president has been criticizing the fbi in terms of missing things as it pertains to this shooter. this is how senator bernie sanders saw it this morning. >> of course we have to make it harder for people to be able to purchase weapons. we have people now who are on terrorist watch lists who can't purchase a weapon. does this make any sense to anybody? bottom line here, republicans are going to have to say it's more important to protect the children in this country than to antagonize the nra. are they prepared to do that? i certainly hope...