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There really is -- joe biden is not an illegal president. the guy on the helicopter is not an occupier. the fact that he is being persecuted by the people who stole the office from him makes perfect sense because you can't beat donald trump in an electoral sense or a fair election so you have to remove him from the playing field by these attacks by the anti-state on his legality. that is what they say. it's insane. it's like trying to explain why you should warship crop circles. that is where the majority of the party is. >> congresswoman edwards, i just want to remind the again what the box i...

He ought to choose a different strategy. you can't beat trump two point, oh it's just not working for him. and so for desantis's strategy to of trump trump has fired. and for all the other candidates and the other candidates in the republican primary, their problem is that all of the single digits candidate are waiting to see what happens to trump. well this campaign implode? will they get more indictment? well his campaign collapse? will his face turn on him. if that doesn't happen, they'll continue to be single digit candidates. but the thing to remember is that since 1980, the republican pr...

Most money were united behind jeb bush. maybe not -- we'll see how it plays out in this race. i mean, it's been this growing trend as we have observed over the course of the last few months, the republican donor class, from the circles of listening to karl rove, the people in the club for growth, the people now out front. we've known the kochs have been moving this direction for some months. they've now all decided they are definitely, definitely, definitely going to try to challenge trump. i think the problem is two-fold. one is that, you know, with whom? you talked about ron desantis having ...

>> jillian: the president interviewed couple hours ago with msnbc take a loofrjts mr. president thank you. >> thank you. >> it's great to have you. >> thank you, thank you. >> don't go anywhere, it's a very exciting day around here. >> jillian: jason, you've done some tv. president seems to have not been given any instruction by producers or stage managers. he just got up and walked away. what do you make of that? >> yeah, it's not a good look. and, you know, these episodes compound, and, you know, obviously americans are going to notice and the media's going to highlight this. it's going to b...

>> reporter: and now former new jersey governor chris christie is planning to announce he's running, two sources tell nbc news. christie slammed other republicans for not hitting the former president hard enough. >> you can't beat donald trump by playing bumper pool and hitting it off three cushions and hope that it goes in the hole. that's not the way it works. >> reporter: trump's big lead in the polls not scaring away the competition. tonight the man seen as his toughest opponent, florida governor, ron desantis, on his first official campaign swing across iowa stepping up attacks on the for...