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Speech. she does have a traditional foreign policy view for republicans 2015 and prior. she can start to implement that into the conversation. i think she can play a decent role in discussion when it comes to this primary. but man, i've got to tell you, i have a really hard time seeing how she justifies being for and against trump based on where the wind is blowing. >> yeah, that's fair. s.e., let me follow up on the congressman's point about foreign policy because we're actually already seeing former president trump and his team hit haley on some of these questions, talking about more america...

School by politicians. she talked about being strong, not being weak and woke, securing america's borders, making sure that policing is up. and those are all things that she's clearly making the case to try to appeal to a broad spectrum of rips because she noted as she did in a video out yesterday the republicans have lost the popular vote in seven out of the eight last presidential races. she says that's because they have failed to capture the majority of republican support. she said that is all about to change. kasie. >> all right, kylie atwood, thank you very much for that report. really ap...

Tank pretty quickly because trump is really the only one that can succeed doing that. i think if she keeps her campaign clean, tight, serious, sticks to the things she knows, believes in and has experience with, i think she could run a pretty serious campaign. >> it's going to be a really interesting first test. after what we saw in 2016 with trump taking out one person after the other to see how people grapple with it and nikki haley is an interesting figure as the first person to make that attempt. s.e. cupp and adam kinzinger, thanks to both of you. i appreciate your insights. coming up, ...

Like i did, you're probably not going to win the nomination. >> that is a fair self-assessment, congressman. i appreciate your honesty. s.e., let me ask you, i want to read you some quotes from politico. she sat down with reporter tim alberta for this lengthy profile. he talked to her right after january 6th when she said, quote, he, meaning donald trump, is not going to run for federal office again. but what if shehe does, can the republican party heal with trump in the picture. and she says, quote, i don't think he's going to be in the picture. i don't think he can, he has fallen so far. so ...

Want to make yourself? >> i would not run if president trump ran. >> to s.e.'s point, congressman, how does she answer tough questions like this? does she try to avoid them for the next six or eight months? how would you answer those if it came from your mouth? >> she can't answer those questions. anybody that runs against her or runs in the primary will have the same questions they can't answer of the either mutual assured destruction or we don't need to touch it. so many people with the exception of trump himself and maybe to an extent desantis, so many people have tried to walk a line and s...