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From bill melugin today to places like mauritania, they're coming from nepal, from china, india, places to which they cannot be immediately removed without enormous logistical half. so how would this logistically shut down the border? >> one they won't be processed for asylum. number two this will act as a disincentive. a lot of the policies that my colleagues wanted to bring back from the trump administration and a lot of them acted as a disincentive for people to travel here. so this new executive order will have that effect and we should see that over the next couple of months and months of...

They can't be held in detention centers there's just too many of them. you may say you don't qualify for asylum, but they also likely don't qualify with getting kicked out of the country. >> that's right. the pull factor is an unprecedented level because the cartels have gained the system to go to areas to send him across to tell them to claim asylum, john. >> sandra: griff and bill, if you can hang on with us, it's a live look at the white house where surprise, surprise they are running a little late. about 11 minutes behind at this point but we are getting closer, hang on with us jim jordan ...

Wait a minute, what happened to? the modernization act that republican senate had proposed time and time again who refused for 63 and half years to convene a bipartisan group of elected leaders from the senate and house of representatives to the white house so we can reconcile the differences and get to some kind of consensus. the problem is all i heard was the attacks on the g.o.p. he demonized a lot of the folks are asking for border security. at the same time this represented a lot of donald trump's statements about migrants. so it is incoherent whether you are attacking the g.o.p. but then...

Equation? >> john: congressman, we don't have a total updating number you said 10 million people illegally, 7.8 million came illegally in the last 3.5 years and you combine that with people who are already here we are well above 10 million. thank you, congressman for hanging with us we appreciated. >> sandra: thank you. >> thank you john and sandra. >> john: let's bring bill melugin life from the border did you hear anything, bill, that gives you any confidence that the daily traffic of illegal migration that you have seen since you started on this beat three and a half years ago is going to o...

Takes any questions that we can ask about the got aways and the greatest threat meanwhile we are looking as bill says not only effective closure of the border but we can be looking at a significant number of deportations and already not only the aclu threatening legal action and rashida tlaib and setting their hair on fire about it we have groups like lost americas out of el paso saying that "this decision illustrates the administration and the lessons of failed deterrent measures in place by biden's predecessors." >> sandra: griff, thank you for that. bill, the house speaker mike johnson did ...