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Biden himself asked about what could happen if there was someone with a suicide vest. what goes into deciding how to carry out this kind of very risky raid, phil? >> there's a couple of characteristics you have to look at. you mentioned one. the intelligence value is very high. there's a prospect he's going to speak. getting inside someone's head to understand things like courier networks, who's next in line in leadership. that's incredibly value for an organization that doesn't like to put stuff down on paper and doesn't communicate by e-mail or text, human being detainees are very important....

>> there's a couple of characteristics you have to look at. you mentioned one. the intelligence value is very high. if you get him, regardless of whether he's a hardened terrorist there's a prospect he's going to speak. getting inside someone's head to understand things like courier networks, who's next in line in leadership. that's incredibly value for an organization that doesn't like to put stuff down on paper and doesn't communicate by e-mail or text, human being detainees are very important. that's the intel piece. the second piece is the safety piece for the women and children in the com...

Of course parents, like yourself, who are wishing you would have an answer now. you want to make sure it's done correctly. when we give you -- namely the fda and the cdc with their recommendation, when we give you as a mom a recommendation, you can feel comfortable that it's based on the solid science and not on an anticipation of what you would like it to be. >> you and i talked a lot about vaccines needing to be safe and effective. you make an important point. the safety piece of it is not in question. it's how effective is it and at what level -- how many doses do these kids need? do you an...