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>> 50% do not want this tax plan. 61% say it favors the wealthy. 52% don't believe it will lead to more jobs. state and local tacks, salt deduction. why is this still popular with the gop leadership? >> that's a great question. this is sort of a biblical truth among republicans that we just have to cut taxes when we get the chance. they're doing it. they insist that, no, this is really going to be good for the middle class. it's going to be good for most of america. once people actually see these tax cuts going into effect and some people see a lighter tax bill and less taxes taken out of thei...

Example, they didn't attack carried interest which is clearly a loophole and then they went on to spend another many trillion, trillion and a half dollars on a personal side that really isn't an overhaul. it's in fact simply a change. >> maria: yeah, and you know, i know that this is a big deal for california. in 2014 alone, the salt deductions slashed californians taxable income by a total of $101 billion more than twice that of second place new york so new york and california are upset about this. do you think that there is room for movement here in the senate plan? i know you voted no large...

States like new york, by eliminating state and local tax deduction you're taking more money from a place like new york to pay for deeper tax cuts elsewhe elsewhere. others claim they're subsidizing new york, but new york, for example, is a net contributor. both tax policy and spending policy. we spend, send more to walk than get back in return and that's with the deduction. when i look at the numbers, take away the s.a.l.t. deduction, it was problem, by the way, on the house side, there was a $10,000 property tax deduction cap. better than the full elimination still on the senate side. for me ...

That number gets closer to 4. that seems staggering for someone listening to this who lives in many other states and other parts of the country. the cost of living in a lot higher as well. and the only thing i would add as far as the subsidy piece you have to look at overall tax and spending policy. new york is a net contributor. we aren't going through all the different aspects of tax and spending policy trying to make all sorts of changes so that new york isn't a net contributor. i'm okay with that. that's with the salt deduction. we're not being subsidized by tax policy and spending policy....

>> it is a financial move from the perspective of building, trying to find out whether -- it's political and financial. >> sure. >> because they are trying to solve other political problems. >> yeah. >> around the s.a.l.t. deduction and other technical stuff that's concerning their members. this repealing the individual mandate is something that's broadly popular but there are these few holdsouts. and that's going to be question. i think the sense among democrats right now is one of a little bit of amazement because i think they were having trouble messaging against this tax plan. it's very ha...