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Zelensky should be impeached. senator chris murphy met with zelensky and was joined by a republican, senator ron johnson. the president is leaving out the fact that a republican was part of the meeting because, kate, ukraine has been an issue where there's been bipartisan support in terms of russian aggression. in responding to jamil's point, we provided assistance to ukraine after russia invaded crimea and started the conflict in eastern ukraine. president trump likes to spin the fact obama didn't provide military assistance. he said yesterday obama provided blankets and pillows. we provided ...

Javelin. one thing worth saying, president trump is the first to provide a military to ukraine and that's why it matters so much. unlike president obama when crimea was invaded and russia began inappropriate activities in eastern ukraine we didn't provide military aid. an interesting dynamic playing out. >> absolutely. jamil, stand by for me a second. sam, one thing that was raised by the president this morning when he was responding that i am just to be honest now recalling, when he said a few weeks ago democrats m democrats met with ukrainian president zelensky and his wording was if he they...

Release this transcript, it is going to set a bad precedent going forward. the question is why barr would want it released since his name is essentially all over it and you see how the president sees rudy guilliani and bill barr through the same lens. >> that may be the least surprising thing. >> true. >> sam, first, what is your point? >> obviously to your point, pompeo wouldn't want this released. the president trashes a u.s. ally, germany. he trashes the u.s. ambassador to ukraine and it is detrimental to national security. any foreign leader that meets with the president has to expect that...

Like you to have a phone call with giuliani. we don't know if that's actually happened. what we do know is giuliani and met with ukrainian officials. the state department hasn't answered any of our questions in recent days about what they were learning from the president's personal attorney in the conversations he was having. >> some more perspective, sam, is there a good reason for an issue of corruption on any issue between two nations that any president, any world leader would want to employ their private attorney to spearhead -- i'm stuttering because i don't get it. >> the short answer is...

President has, all of the work the state department and others are doing on behalf of ukraine going forward will be subject to congressional scrutiny. all of the work that should be done likely will be evidence, including the meeting happening in three hours between president trump and president zelensky. you can kind of see them wanting to get in there and compare notes about how to handle it. >> i can't even believe the news some days. i can't believe it is happening on this day. >> it is happening in real-time. these two leaders are talking about investigating a rival of president trump. ze...