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A personalality-driven candidate. he has to be someone we can trust on this and can't be a lick of evidence he's been at all, you know, trying to hide the truth going on here. >> yeah, ben's just given the best-case sncenario for christi. you have hedge funders who believe he was not as good of a bet as three days ago. we're going to have all sorts of investigations. it's quite possible you have the new jersey u.s. attorneys looking into this. there's also maybe jurisdiction on the new york side. you know, the southern district u.s. attorneys who might also want to look into this. you're going...

Ben. sam, he -- so i watched this thing today and basically i was thinking, well, there's two possibilities here. he really is telling the truth or he is just going all in and thinks he can get away with it. >> he's going all in. the interest thing about that clip you just played is that's almost identical. if you would have put that side by side with his response to the idea that somebody took out a political vendetta is ridiculous, that's a joke, how can you ask that question? look, he was -- he had to swing for the fences because that's his style. he could not sort of bunt here. and, you kn...

Donors will look at courtesy and second guess their decision, maybe get a little skittish about endorsing someone this early or backing someone to the hilt. >> i actually read this in the "federalist" which you published, the money primary is really important. as sam wases saying, in the same way his base has been kind of the beltway media and his base in the republican party has really been kind of like hedge fund guys in new york. right? right, ben? that's where a lot of these, quote, base support is. >> exactly. that's -- i think it's actually just going to lead us to a situation where 2016...

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