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Well really, i don't think anyone knows what's going to happen. we know chief justice roberts is very incrementalist on the court. that's a lot of scare amomonger. we've heard that ever since justice o conor was proposed. >> we've heard this during the campaign. you shouldn't be worried about trump. he's going to be president, he'll roll into the job. that is not what has happened. >> certainly on these issues, he was pro-choice at one point. but that's not how -- >> exactly. and right now, what we know about donald trump. one thing he's been consistent about is appealing to his base. to deliv...