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In. the back and forth we have seen in this lead, santorum has had a big lead. it started to shrink in the past few minutes as karl rove mentioned, some of the urban areas and the suburbs in the big cities, starting to come nperhaps. we will talk to karl in just a bit about that. we can also call now that newt gingrich will finish third in ohio and ron paul will finish fourth. we can call that now. >> megyn: and call virginia as l. >> bret: we did that a long time ago. >> megyn: in case you were confused about the states that mitt romney won -- >> bret: newt gingrich wins georgia, wide spread ...

They are a famously late-counting precincts. they are famously close. >> megyn: why do you think karl rove feels like it's romney's to lose? he is talking about the counties that are pro-romney have not all reported? >> there are key places we are looking in. not just in suburban cleveland. but also down in the southern part of the state, in the southwestern part of the state, where there is a lot more vote that could be a good romney vote. we are also waiting to finish up the vote counting in western, rural counties, where you could see a good number for santorum. so they both have a couple o...

But if you look at tonight, outside of georgia and you look at tennessee and oklahoma, the winner had on average, 35%, the second place finisher, 28. and the third-place finisher, 26. the problem is, these are -- these delegates will be awarded proportionally, so next week, let's assume the candidates run as well as they did tonight in oklahoma and tennessee. the first-place finisher will get 32 delegates and second place, 27 and the third place finisher, 25. the problem is, speaker gingrich was the third-place finisher in the south outside of georgia, which means he would get 25, two behind t...

That's just one example we heard from obama today, things he wants to do wrong to this country. he who can most starkly contrast his ideas against that will go forward. at this point, it doesn't make any sense for anybody to drop out and concede that they can't be the nominee. >> bret: more with governor palin. thank you. >> megyn: want to give that back now to washington with "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace is there. >> the big question, looking at the numbers in ohio at this point, santorum leads by 13,000 votes with more than 60% of the vote in. so then the question becomes. why can'...

Suburbs are -- basically, we have a burve of big urban and suburban counties. >> are santorum counties out? >> yeah, but it's marian and ottawa, marion is a small, rural county, ottawa is near toledo and could be a romney county and one other suburban county, suburban cleveland county of medine alikely to be a romney counselee. so we have seen it as big as 16,000 and closed to 11,000 and back out now -- >> 12,000 right now. >> 12,000 votes. >> you would think, looking at this, though, with the big counties out, it is going cotoclose for romney. but will it close enough to overtake santorum. th...