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more than a thousand witness interviews including those with leaders from the proud boys from the doj's letter in part, read this, it is now readily apparent that the interviews the select committee conducted are not just potentially relevant to our overall criminal investigations, but are likely relevant to specific prosecutions that have already commenced. well, the news that we alluded to this afternoon, a spokesman confirmed an earlier new york times scoop to our team on the hill that the committee will cooperate with the doj. what that could mean and how that partnership could p...

Hindsight, again, i think it's the truth of the matter coming to light. >> sarah, it's not by design, i wasn't trying to end this segment on pessimism, but you focus on extremism in your reporting for the "l.a. times." where are we heading? to jeremy's point, we've got to be clear about domestic terrorists, january 6th was a domestic terrorist attack on our democracy. but where are we heading when you see the rise of extremism in all of its various forms that have been on the rise since january 6th? >> really heavy question to end on. you know, i think the -- you start to see at least the fede...

Hotel and other hotels around the city who already primed to believe that election fraud had occurred. and so throughout the reporting, we really saw that there was a disconnect between people who believed trump and people who just believed that fraud had occurred. it was really clear that the trump campaign had stepped away, was already breaking down and breaking away from these claims, and i think it was by -- by the time giuliani held his big press conference with sidney powell, claiming they had reams of fraud to present to the public, that the, you know, trump campaign had really stepped ...

So-and-so saw someone delivering more ballots than they were allowed to under state law or saw a delivery truck pull up at the back of a ballot counting center and assumed that it had, you know, fake ballots inside. but that really stood out. we saw this legislative -- or this court strategy go forward for several weeks after the election. they lost 62 cases altogether. but to hear that they knew all along that the courts probably weren't going to step in and overturn an entire election unless they had real solid proof of fraud, instead, they just needed enough to convince the lawmakers it nee...

>> that is where we start this hour with some of our favorite reporters and friends. luke broad water, "new york times" congressional reporter is here, plus national security reporter for the "l.a. times" with a focus on the january 6th insurrection and domestic extremism, sara wire. luke, i'll start with you, speak to this disconnect between what we heard in these depositions of trump allies versus what they were doing in public, in realtime, between election day and the insurrection day. >> yeah, i think a lot of democrats would be surprised that bill barr was essentially the star witness of...